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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    With no regards to the golden rule, maybe something like;
    23.5"x18.5"x46.5" inside dimensions = 11.70 cu. ft minus the volume of the horn if you want to mount it inside the box.
    23.5"x18.5"x40.5" inside dimensions = 10.19 cu. ft if you wanted to put the horn on top of the box.
    I think that the front and back panels should use a 1/4" dado into the sides, top, and bottom panels as well as all of those panels to each other.

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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    If you had the guts for M-19's
    I'd sell them as i have multiple times before.

    416-8B(or 16B) is the only 416 i'd embark on a "hifi" project with. Best i've heard one sound is in an Onken type enclosure. Fella was running TAD 4001's on HUGE Edgar(or similar, they might have been avant guarde) salad bowls on top, active filtering, Pass F5 powering the horns Conrad Johnson mosfet on the woofers, probably the best i've heard a 2-way system sound despite the fairly beamy salad bowls, pretty heavenly in the sweet spot. I'd like to hear the same system with proper 288's and 1505's on top. When life settles down for me a bit, duplicating this system may become a serious goal, to me it's that good.
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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    Quote Originally Posted by bowtie427ss View Post
    I'd sell them as i have multiple times before.
    This would be my preference also, but it didn't seem within the 'spirit' of the query.

    The 360 Onken was what the 'C' owner wanted, so we built it, but I was underwhelmed overall, so we tried a MLTL, which we thought was subjectively better overall, but the best was a relatively high tuned TL, though no bass except in a corner; so all things considered, not an Altec that interests me except for maybe a small room and/or with a separate sub system.

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    edit: Note that this was for a very early pair and have no experience with newer versions, so this might not be a fair assessment of all 'C's.
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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    Apologies folks! My previous post reads with a bit of a "snarky" tone, wasn't my intent to impart the tone, just the opinion.
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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    Quote Originally Posted by bowtie427ss View Post
    with proper 288's and 1505's on top.
    I have the 288 8 ohm aluminum version redone at GPA but I would have to settle for 1803 horns.

    Quote Originally Posted by GM View Post
    The 360 Onken was what the 'C' owner wanted, so we built it, but I was underwhelmed overall.
    Thank you for posting it over at the other site but this is not good news.

    Quote Originally Posted by bowtie427ss View Post
    Apologies folks! My previous post reads with a bit of a "snarky" tone, wasn't my intent to impart the tone, just the opinion.
    Ya, none of us have EVER done anything like that you *******!
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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    Forgot to mention, my babies came home from the hospital today. All nice and shiny. New dust caps, new goop, don't they look beautiful? Sorry for the poor pic.
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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    Quote Originally Posted by Cal Weldon View Post
    Forgot to mention, my babies came home from the hospital today. All nice and shiny. New dust caps, new goop, don't they look beautiful? Sorry for the poor pic.
    Where did you send them--GPA? They look great! (lightened up your photo with photoshop)

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    Re: If you had the guts for M-19's

    Quote Originally Posted by Cal Weldon View Post
    I have the 288 8 ohm aluminum version redone at GPA but I would have to settle for 1803 horns.


    Thank you for posting it over at the other site but this is not good news.
    Poor, poor, pitiful you.

    You're welcome! what can I say? After 416A, -B, 515B, the early Ferrite had a tough act to follow. The 360 was too large for the high tuning, so all I could do was increase series resistance and stuff ports. It wasn't bad, just not optimal. An Onken alignment would probably be fine if designed with measured specs + any series resistance.

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